Saturday, May 18, 2013

Taiwan President approval rating only 14%: Taiwan Directs Anger at Philippines as Ma Frustration Simmers, Bloomberg


Taiwan Directs Anger at Philippines as Ma Frustration Simmers

Sitting in Taipei’s main commercial center as office workers filed out for lunch, Y.S. Liu mourned the collapse of her import business. Her president, she said, had failed to deliver.
The 60-year-old blamed Ma Ying-jeou, whose approval rating is 14 percent, for an economy that grew at one of the slowest rates in Asia last year, sparking January protests that helped trigger the resignation of Premier Sean Chen. When a Philippine patrol boat crew killed a Taiwanese fisherman last week, Liu and others found an outlet for their fear of being bypassed in Asia’s recovery.
Ma Ying-jeou, Taiwan's president, improved ties with China after he was first elected in 2008, ending a six-decade ban on direct transport links. Since his re-election in January 2012, his popularity has plummeted as the economy slowed compared to others in the region. Photographer: Maurice Tsai/Bloomberg
“We’ve been frustrated for so long,” Liu said, adding Ma should be even tougher on the Philippines. “We’re so full of anger, so disappointed and dissatisfied with our government.”
Ma is seizing the moment to press President Benigno Aquino for a formal apology as Taiwan grocers pull Philippine goods from stores and travel agencies cancel trips, an approach that risks denting efforts to boost trade ties in Asia. His reaction may say more about Taiwan’s feeling of weakness in a region of emerging powers that don’t officially recognize its government.
“The whole world is bullying us, so we have to bully someone weaker than us,” said George Tsai, a political scientist at Chinese Culture University in Taipei. “Taiwanese have accumulated so much frustration and anger. Collectively, we’re trying to find an outlet. At such a moment, the Ma administration can only be tough.”

Ma Ultimatum

The diplomatic spat started on May 9, when a Philippine patrol boat fired at least 32 bullets at a Taiwanese boat in waters claimed by both sides, killing a 65-year-old fisherman. Ma threatened economic retaliation if Aquino didn’t meet four demands: apologize, compensate the family, agree to talks on disputed fishing zones and start an investigation.
The Philippines, which doesn’t formally recognize Taiwan under its one-China policy, agreed to all the demands except a government apology. Aquino offered to apologize on behalf of the Filipino people.
Ma rejected it outright. Within 24 hours, his government began military exercises off its southern coast, told people to stop traveling to the Philippines and froze the hiring of Filipino workers. State-run Taiwan Sugar, with 12 outlets stocking snacks and other products made in the Philippines, took items off its shelves.

Voice Raised

“People want justice, and our voice to be heard by the international community,” Wei Huang, manager at a Taiwan Sugar store in Taipei, said after removing more than 100 products. “We should use whatever leverage we have.”
Taiwan also moved to halt already-limited diplomatic engagement, including ministerial meetings under the World Health Assembly, a body of the World Health Organization. Sixteen Taiwan-based exhibitors withdrew from the International Food Expo in Manila.
Taiwan’s media has fueled the public outcry, with front-page headlines declaring “Philippine Government, Rotten to the Core.” Groups congregated outside the house of the dead fisherman.
“This is something very unusual,” said Samuel C.Y. Ku, a professor at the Institute of China and Asia-Pacific Studies in Taiwan. “We haven’t seen this kind of social outrage from a specific event.”

Negligible Impact

Investors have shrugged off the tensions. Taiwan’s Taiex index, which fell 0.3 percent yesterday, is up 1 percent since the shooting. The Philippine Stock Exchange Index (PCOMP)has gained 1.2 percent in that time and hit a record high on May 15.
“We’re assuming this calms down and the impact will be negligible” on each country’s economy, said Robert Prior-Wandesforde, Singapore-based head of Southeast Asia economics at Credit Suisse Group AG.
The U.S., which is a treaty ally to the Philippines and helps maintain Taiwan’s defense, urged both sides to avoid an escalation.
China condemned the killing and demanded the Philippines begin an investigation. Taiwan has been ruled separately since Chiang Kai-shek’s Kuomintang party fled China in 1949 after a civil war, and the Communist Party deems the island a renegade province.
“With an island so interdependent with both economic powerhouses -- and being a democracy that has to respond to public opinion -- something like this must be handled quite literally like a controlled ’storm in a teacup,’” said Gary Li, a senior analyst at IHS Maritime. Ma “will settle down once the political theater is complete.”

First Elected

Ma improved ties with China after he was first elected in 2008, ending a six-decade ban on direct transport links. Since his re-election in January 2012, his popularity has plummeted as the economy slowed compared to others in the region, which are moving ahead on trade agreements that exclude Taiwan.
Taiwan’s gross domestic product grew 1.3 percent last year, according to the Asian Development Bank, slower than South Korea, China and most Southeast Asian nations. The opposition Democratic Progressive Party led the January protest in Taipei over Ma’s economic management that drew tens of thousands of people.
When it comes to the dispute with the Philippines, however, Ma’s opponents are with him. DPP chairman Su Tseng-chang said Taiwan needed to present a united front despite Ma’s other shortcomings.
“This is a matter of dignity,” said J.J. Tsai, a 40-year-old housewife, as she shopped in one of Taiwan Sugar’s stores yesterday. “We are willing to pay the economic price.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Daniel Ten Kate in Bangkok at dtenkate@bloomberg.net; Yu-Huay Sun in Taipei at ysun7@bloomberg.net
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  • John Oon 2 minutes ago
    This " rammed our Coast Guard ship" talk is a complete nonsense.
    Picture of the Taiwanese ship taken after the incident is in the internet and there is no sign of it ramming the coast guard ship. Please remember that the coast guard ship is made of steel  and the fisherman boat is made of fibre. Also the coast guard ship is and is 7 times the size/weight of the fisherman boat.
  • John Oon 8 minutes ago
    You can't kill someone and then said sorry and hope that everything is well again. You have to do more than that. This should be common sense.
    The Philippine should apologize unreservedly as a nation and compensate the lost of the victim's family and pay a certain fine to the Taiwanese govt for not obeying international law. Lastly the Philippines govt must carry out concrete actions to show that they will not commit the same crime again in the future.
  •  Why do we even bother. Remember the Sankaku island incidents in Japan? A fisherman vessel rammed a Japanese coastguard, the fisherman was arrested and China demanded him back and when he came back to China he was hailed a hero. Chinese will justify anything that they are in the right side. I haven't seen a Chinese incident were the Chinese themselves apologize. Turning to the America in Asia I see, arrogant self centered snobs.
  • John Oon 16 minutes ago
    You can't kill someone and then said sorry and hope that everything is well again. You have to do more than that. This should be common sense.
    The Philippine should apologize unreservedly as a nation and compensate the lost of the victim's family and pay a certain fine to the Taiwanese govt for not obeying international law. Lastly the Philippines govt must carry out concrete actions to show that they will not commit the same crime again in the future.
  •  Why do we even bother. Remember the Sankaku island incidents in Japan? A fisherman vessel rammed a Japanese coastguard, the fisherman was arrested and China demanded him back and when he came back to China he was hailed a hero. Chinese will justify anything that they are in the right side. I haven't seen a Chinese incident were the Chinese themselves apologize. Turning to the America in Asia I see, arrogant self centered snobs.
  • I don't think people who can't distinguish the difference between Taiwanese and Chinese should be commenting on this matter. 
  • Some feeling hatred toward China ironically love to be its mouthpieces.
  • If Japan, who caught and rammed your illegal fisherman, apologizes, then maybe- maybe we can talk about how you illegally entered our waters and rammed our Coast Guard ship. The Philippines can live without you - TAIWAN. We helped defend your country when Mao wanted to crush you.
    We, the Philippines, will defend our territorial waters the best we can - yes, even if we have to die for it. Send our workers back if you don't want them. Start trying to know how to do things without us. There are other countries who will love to take our intelligent and hardworking people.
    Oh yeah! Your fellow citizen drug dealer was recently sent to life imprisonment. What a good example.
  • Funny that you should bring up the recent incident with Japan. Now why should the Japanese apologize? It's not like the they shot anyone in cold blood and denied any wrong-doing afterwards. Yes, our fishing boat went beyond our newly negotiated fishing zone, and the Taiwanese captain will be fined for it. Fortunately, the Japanese don't fire machine gun at unarmed civilian boats. That's just not how things are handled in the civilized world. 
    Oh, I'm sure you guys can live perfectly well without Taiwan, but please tell that to your OFWs. Please say those exact words to their faces. Apparently your love for your country does not extend to your fellow citizens who are just trying to make a living away from home. 
    Stop bringing up the drug arguments already. We are not going to defend a drug dealer just because he's Taiwanese. In fact, we're glad your justice system is finally working for once and that you're able to put a bad guy away (perhaps that's why the drug dealers end up in your country - so much easier to do business there). Now, how about those murderers hiding behind your government's protection?
  • cucumber_v 1 hour ago
    Those poor OFWs in Taiwan are actually going to put up with their government? Let the corrupt officials continue to fabricate lies to cover up a brutal murder and allow the gun-ho, trigger-happy coast guards go free while their livelihood is taken from them? Seriously, think about the welfare of your own people before making stupid decisions. 
    Where did that "century built up anger" come from? I don't remember paying your country that much attention until this happened. 
  • the Philippines government is now considering to embrace the communist party of the Philippines and soon will recall all overseas Filipino workers worldwide to voluntarily go home. each family will be given 2 cows + php 500,000 no interest loan + 5 hectares of farmland to survive.
    Please share this joke until peace-talks between government and NPA resume so that this dream might come true, lol.
  • Credibility is not on saying.
    Credibility is on your decent actions.
    For the sake of God, we have to use one life to teach you such simple things.
  •  Even Abraham, Moses and all the kings and people who believed and followed God protected their land and their own. They didn't JUST PRAY! See what Israel is today!
  • Your point being?
  • onevoice898 3 hours ago
    seriously all of you guys get a life lmfao no one cares, philippines / taiwan no one cares! let your government do the talking and shutup
    (Edited by author 3 hours ago)
  • I am practicing my English ...
  • I have nothing better to do at work... just doing this to kill time until I go on vacation next week. lol.
  • I get fed up with news like these sometimes, these kind of arguments doesn't do anyone any good, philippines or taiwan or whatever you cant just generalize that one race is barbaric and one is not. People are different, not all are the same.
  • Well, stereotypes are only statistically true. 
  • and now if anyone doesn't get that.. Seems like they are the one who deserves to be called barbaric
  • cucumber_v 3 hours ago
    Looks like something similar happened to an American guy a few years back... wow. 
    "... and not wanting to lose a 3-million-piso boat, Randy's crew (and wife) decided to head back out to open waters and set sail for a more favorable jurisdiction, leaving Randy on the pier to record the whole event. The Philippine Navy gave chase, caught up with the boat, and ordered everyone on board into the water so that they could sink it. The crew refused, so the Philippine Navy apparently shot up the boat with the people still on deck."
  • cucumber_v 3 hours ago
    Looks like something similar happened to an American guy a few years back... wow. 
    "... and not wanting to lose a 3-million-piso boat, Randy's crew (and wife) decided to head back out to open waters and set sail for a more favorable jurisdiction, leaving Randy on the pier to record the whole event. The Philippine Navy gave chase, caught up with the boat, and ordered everyone on board into the water so that they could sink it. The crew refused, so the Philippine Navy apparently shot up the boat with the people still on deck."
  • vinkoy 4 hours ago
     But if the US fisherman entered Canadian waters illegally and tried to ram the Canadian Coast Guard, the US wouldn't demand an apology.
  • But I'm sure the friendly Canadians would apologize anyway and assume full responsibility of the shooting first (after all, an unarmed civilian is shot dead) until they can provide tangible proof to support their theory (which does not seem plausible in the slightest bit, btw). That's how things work in the civilized world. 
    The Americans would be appalled if they even had to ask for an apology. 
  • Give me a favor. your gov even reluctant to form a joint investigation.
  •  What favor do you need? The incident happened in Philippine waters. We are a sovereign country and can do our own investigation. Just because your government requested for a joint investigation, we should immediately abide?
  • That's fine. Show your decent investigation. If your gov is credible, show it. There is nothing to do with your dignity. We want truth without any cover.
  • Our left survivals said they did not try to ram your PCG and they never heared any warning shot. If you continue to use such ostensible speeches, it is regarded as continuing attacks to Taiwaners. We have survivals, don't forget this. Find the truth out.
  •  I take it that you mean survivors? I guess it's your fishermens' words against our coast guards' words then. Did you expect the fishermen to say: 'We tried to ram them that's why they shot at us?" Don't forget our coast guards are also alive. yes, find the truth out
  • That's the whole point, we trust the fisherman. We don't trust your PCG. We are realy decent. You gov even show a bunch of guns but not willing to show any video footage.  One day before we show our 50+ bullet holes, your government claimed only two shots. That is pathetic for your government. Don't repeat things over and over. Just stop such ostensible speeches. Find the truth.
  • After all has been said, how might the 2 countries solve this? What can the Philippine government / Taiwan Government do that will be reasonable enough for the other country to accept? 
  • Jerry Cris Buhisan 6 hours ago
    This is not about the Government!!! This is about Filipino people!!! our Government sucks!! but it doesnt mean that all filipino sucks!! try to think ! TAIWAN!
  • Try to think and tell your government to do the right thing. Then we will back off. You're a [supposedly] democratic country; the people should be in control of the government. 
  • Your fishermen entered our territory an tried to ram our coast guard. Serves them right. The right thing is for your fishermen to stop intruding into our territory.
  • what is the right thing? our govt do whatever your president told except for talks on fishing ground. Taiwan and Philippines signed a pact that taiwan vessel can ENTER (not to fish) when going and out of the pacific. and now taiwan will say that there is an overlapping jurisdiction? When the day China come to take you by force we will not shed blood and tears with you. Since Chiang Kai Shek days we are supporting you.
  • Get some knowledge of international law of sea. My dear neiborghhood.
  • Master of Unlocking in reply to Dog 5 hours ago
    Don't bother. It's like "give a hand and they'll ask for an arm." Nothing we do will ever be good enough for them.
    They will use these "fishing talks", naturally, to demand that we allow their fishermen to fish on our territory. So that they can steal even more of our resources.When the Nationalists got their asses kicked on the mainland and ran away to Taiwan, the Philippines was one of the countries that offered them refuge. Look at how they show their gratitude.
  • At this point, I have got a very clear view about what have happened for these days. Taiwan, as a Golden Retriever, mistook Philippines as a Pit Bull on its bite and also felt continuing attacks on its ostensible speeches. Although all most of Taiwaners are still in anger, I will say they will soon understand Philippines is actually a Chihuahua.

    Hey, Chihuahua know more about Golden Retriever will not bother at all. After all, we are all dogs.
  • muddygoose 8 hours ago
    I hope some Taiwanese here who have very harsh things to say about Filipinos remember that Filipinos take very good care of many of your children and old people. Remember that although they are here for economic reasons, they shower them with love and care as if they are their own family.
  • Honestly, we don't hate the Filipino people, and we do feel bad about the OFWs that are caught in the middle of all this. Like Tobey said below, Filipino people are nice, the problem is the government. However, ultimately, it's the people that allowed such government to exist and run the country for them. I'm sure you all know fully well that your government is corrupt to the core, but the majority of your people still choose to overlook the obvious and continue to defend the laughable excuses fabricated by your officials. 
    Please don't blame us for losing your job or source of income. You need to look at your own government and ask, have they done everything right and acted in the people's best interest? 
  • If it's necessary for us to lose our jobs so that you can assert your sovereignty and prove to the world that Taiwan is no pushover, then it's fine. We are used to being poor and are very resilient. Since the TW gov't and its people (at least your types) want to take this step, I will leave it up to you to determine whether this kind of action is beneficial and sensible. My point of view is that you need to step back and think, but TW is your country (yes, for me it is, but I'm just a Filipino), so do what you must. You might even start a war if you like--I watch local TW news and I know what some of you are thinking. Whether or not this is wrong, you decide.
    PH gov't is plagued by corruption? That really is old news. It is a social ill that we are trying to change, but that is our problem. I'm sorry if you feel that you have been affected by it.
  • Ask your government officials if it's necessary for the OFWs to lose their jobs so that they can look tough while covering up the apparent misconduct of the coast guard. 
    We don't just "feel" that we have been affected by the corruption of your government. We ARE affected by it. Why, your government is at the moment conducting a "transparent and thorough" investigation of the death of our fisherman, which we are not allowed to take part in. I wonder how that's gonna turn out. What do you think?

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