Sunday, July 28, 2013

Opinions on Liaoning, China aircraft carrier



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I share the opinion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning has no survivability in a total war, even without the use of nuclear weapons. At the moment, the Liaoning is a symbol of China's emerging military power but it is more a liability than an asset against the other military powers in the region. It operates in very restricted waters and cannot hide; I am sure it's location in exact coordinates is known and monitored every minute, 24 hours a day. I would not want to be in that aircraft carrier should serious conflict, God forbid, start. It would be among the first targets. Even Japan alone, with its very powerful navy and air force, can easily handle it. More so if the opponent is the world's number one military power that has the capability to hit the Liaoning with various weapons systems like cruise missiles launched from various platforms (submarines, surface ships, planes), or by attack planes coming from different aircraft carriers. The Liaoning's destruction, possible in the first 24 hours of conflict, would be a big blow to China's war morale. This is just my humble opinion.
[Admin 06]
Japanese Plastic Model Trolls the Chinese Military

A new plastic model for a Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force escort vessel is raising eyebrows in China.

The model's box art seems to feature the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning engulfed in flames and sinking. Japanese fighter jets fly overhead.

Originally a Soviet carrier, the Liaoning is known for its curved incline to, as South China Morning Post explains, "launch" aircraft from its deck. This is different from U.S. Navy aircraft carriers, which use a catapult-assisted system.

The model carries the words "Operation Senkaku", which refers to a set of islands that both China and Japan are claiming as their own.

Online in China, people have been quick to point out that the sinking aircraft carrier looks like the Liaoning. Xinhua, one of China's largest news sources, is even covering the plastic model, wondering why it mocks the Chinese navy. The reason, apparently, was that the Japanese navy has never lost to China or something to that effect.

However, online in Japan, people seemed to think it was a silly thing to get upset over, noting that it was just box art for a plastic model aimed at the military model maker niche. Some even pointed out that this model company in particular often has provocative box art and plastic models. Others said this was tame compared to all the hyper violent anti-Japanese dramas on Chinese TV.

With this newfound attention, some even pointed out that this model was headed for big sales. Everything according to keikaku, no doubt.

http://kotaku.com/japanese-plastic-model-trolls-the-chinese-military-878134237
Photo: [Admin 06] Japanese Plastic Model Trolls the Chinese Military A new plastic model for a Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force escort vessel is raising eyebrows in China. The model's box art seems to feature the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning engulfed in flames and sinking. Japanese fighter jets fly overhead. Originally a Soviet carrier, the Liaoning is known for its curved incline to, as South China Morning Post explains, "launch" aircraft from its deck. This is different from U.S. Navy aircraft carriers, which use a catapult-assisted system. The model carries the words "Operation Senkaku", which refers to a set of islands that both China and Japan are claiming as their own. Online in China, people have been quick to point out that the sinking aircraft carrier looks like the Liaoning. Xinhua, one of China's largest news sources, is even covering the plastic model, wondering why it mocks the Chinese navy. The reason, apparently, was that the Japanese navy has never lost to China or something to that effect. However, online in Japan, people seemed to think it was a silly thing to get upset over, noting that it was just box art for a plastic model aimed at the military model maker niche. Some even pointed out that this model company in particular often has provocative box art and plastic models. Others said this was tame compared to all the hyper violent anti-Japanese dramas on Chinese TV. With this newfound attention, some even pointed out that this model was headed for big sales. Everything according to keikaku, no doubt. http://kotaku.com/japanese-plastic-model-trolls-the-chinese-military-878134237
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  • Roilo Golez posted a photo to Spratly Islands's timeline.
    I share the opinion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning has no survivability in a total war, even without the use of nuclear weapons. At the moment, the Liaoning is a symbol of China's emerging military power but it is more a liability than an asset against the other military powers in the region. It operates in very restricted waters and cannot hide; I am sure it's location in exact coordinates is known and monitored every minute, 24 hours a day. I would not want to be in that aircraft carrier should serious conflict, God forbid, start. It would be among the first targets. Even Japan alone, with its very powerful navy and air force, can easily handle it. More so if the opponent is the world's number one military power that has the capability to hit the Liaoning with various weapons systems like cruise missiles launched from various platforms (submarines, surface ships, planes), or by attack planes coming from different aircraft carriers. The Liaoning's destruction, possible in the first 24 hours of conflict, would be a big blow to China's war morale. This is just my humble opinion.
    Like ·  · 22 hours ago · 
    • 2 people like this.
    • Jack Rubillar V That's the problem of big ships. They also present big targets. 

      Just like in the Russo-Japanese war, where the cocky Russians sent their mammoth Baltic Sea Fleet to "teach the Japanese Navy a lesson". Instead of waving a white flag, the Samurai took      ...See More
      20 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

  • Roilo Golez posted a photo to Spratly Islands Dispute's timeline.
    share the opinion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning has no survivability in a total war, even without the use of nuclear weapons. At the moment, the Liaoning is a symbol of China's emerging military power but it is more a liability than an asset against the other military powers in the region. It operates in very restricted waters and cannot hide; I am sure it's location in exact coordinates is known and monitored every minute, 24 hours a day. I would not want to be in that aircraft carrier should serious conflict, God forbid, start. It would be among the first targets. Even Japan alone, with its very powerful navy and air force, can easily handle it. More so if the opponent is the world's number one military power that has the capability to hit the Liaoning with various weapons systems like cruise missiles launched from various platforms (submarines, surface ships, planes), or by attack planes coming from different aircraft carriers. The Liaoning's destruction, possible in the first 24 hours of conflict, would be a big blow to China's war morale. This is just my humble opinion.
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  • Roilo Golez posted a photo to Southeast Asian Sea (aka South China Sea and West Philippine Sea)'s timeline.
    I share the opinion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning has no survivability in a total war, even without the use of nuclear weapons. At the moment, the Liaoning is a symbol of China's emerging military power but it is more a liability than an asset against the other military powers in the region. It operates in very restricted waters and cannot hide; I am sure it's location in exact coordinates is known and monitored every minute, 24 hours a day. I would not want to be in that aircraft carrier should serious conflict, God forbid, start. It would be among the first targets. Even Japan alone, with its very powerful navy and air force, can easily handle it. More so if the opponent is the world's number one military power that has the capability to hit the Liaoning with various weapons systems like cruise missiles launched from various platforms (submarines, surface ships, planes), or by attack planes coming from different aircraft carriers. The Liaoning's destruction, possible in the first 24 hours of conflict, would be a big blow to China's war morale. This is just my humble opinion.
    Like ·  · Yesterday at 5:05am · 
    • 6 people like this.
    • Manuel C. Diaz What about the supposed boycott of Chinese made goods? The DOTC is about to award the supply of MRT3 coaches to a Chinese rail Company Dalian Locomotives.Are we kidding ourselves?
      2 hours ago · Like · 2
    • Jose Rizal M. Reyes Bill, because of Chinese attention, that toy company got free advertisement which should translate to brisk sales at least for its "Liaoning" toy ship.
      2 hours ago · Like
    • Jose Rizal M. Reyes Manuel, I understand that that there are already Chinese-funded projects that were not pushed through due to the current situation. but ... it seems what remain are the more unpalatable ones like that MRT3 you cited and the reported mining activities by Chinese companies in the Philippines, especially for rare earth elements.
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  • Roilo Golez posted a photo to West Philippine Sea Coalition's timeline.
    I share the opinion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning has no survivability in a total war, even without the use of nuclear weapons. At the moment, the Liaoning is a symbol of China's emerging military power but it is more a liability than an asset against the other military powers in the region. It operates in very restricted waters and cannot hide; I am sure it's location in exact coordinates is known and monitored every minute, 24 hours a day. I would not want to be in that aircraft carrier should serious conflict, God forbid, start. It would be among the first targets. Even Japan alone, with its very powerful navy and air force, can easily handle it. More so if the opponent is the world's number one military power that has the capability to hit the Liaoning with various weapons systems like cruise missiles launched from various platforms (submarines, surface ships, planes), or by attack planes coming from different aircraft carriers. The Liaoning's destruction, possible in the first 24 hours of conflict, would be a big blow to China's war morale. This is just my humble opinion.
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    • Rafael Alunan III and 12 others like this.
    • Jose Rizal M. Reyes 
      that's a good point, Cong. Golez, and I agree. the Liaoning being the current pride of China's military, its destruction in a hypothetical war in the near future would deal a big psychological blow to China's soldiers and civilians.

      and this remind      s me to bring up again the idea that in the case of the Philippines, it is best to buy many small fast attack boats than a few big ships. a policy like that would fit well with guerrilla warfare at sea, which is suitable for the Philippines due to the current state of our military.

      in the big ship department, we cannot hope to match up to China -- neither in quality nor in quantity. so we should go asymmetrical -- our fast small boats against their slow big ships. 

      if they also utilize fast small boats, well, we can make use of our nearby islands for added firepower and concealment purposes. this can provide us with local superiority at any given encounter. the Philippine territories they are trying to grab are nearer to our shores ... so it is easier for us to send reinforcement and added firepower at short notice.

      big ships tend to be prima donnas. you need to pamper them and fuss over them. you need to provide them with bodyguards. this can hamper and slow down Philippine naval operations where the ideal strategy is to depend on stealth, speed and swarming tactics.

      also, per my readings, big ships can operate only half of the year. half of the time they dock for repair and provisioning. smaller ships are easier to maintain and troubleshoot. they are also easier to operate and more difficult to track.
      19 hours ago · Like · 1
    • Jose Rizal M. Reyes  P.S. but I guess adding a few submarines to our naval force -- say 3 or 5 units initially -- wouldn't hurt Philippine national defense. a mix of small fast attack boats and small but fast submarines can cause a lot of fear and headache to any potential enemy.
      18 hours ago · Like · 1

  • Roilo Golez posted a photo to Bugo-bugos's timeline.
    I share the opinion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning has no survivability in a total war, even without the use of nuclear weapons. At the moment, the Liaoning is a symbol of China's emerging military power but it is more a liability than an asset against the other military powers in the region. It operates in very restricted waters and cannot hide; I am sure it's location in exact coordinates is known and monitored every minute, 24 hours a day. I would not want to be in that aircraft carrier should serious conflict, God forbid, start. It would be among the first targets. Even Japan alone, with its very powerful navy and air force, can easily handle it. More so if the opponent is the world's number one military power that has the capability to hit the Liaoning with various weapons systems like cruise missiles launched from various platforms (submarines, surface ships, planes), or by attack planes coming from different aircraft carriers. The Liaoning's destruction, possible in the first 24 hours of conflict, would be a big blow to China's war morale. This is just my humble opinion.
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    • Nonito Alaric Tan China cannot sustain a blue-water confrontation with the USN and JMSDF, kahit pa tulungan sila ng Russia. And they know that. When the missiles start cruising and the bombs start dropping, Liaoning will be the first to disappear off the surface of the sea. China cannot afford an all-out war with ASEAN and the US. They are just sniping at individual countries to assert control over small stuff because they know they can succeed there. It is up to us to determine how this would turn out for the best for our country...
      6 hours ago · Like
    • Roilo Golez Sorry Benjamin A. Samonte, I am not in Congress anymore. Retired after six terms.
      6 hours ago · Like
    • Benjamin A. Samonte Hon. Cong. Golez. I thought you are still there. I wish you are still a congressman, sir... Thanks anyway.
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